Rey is not a Kenobi

I cant buy that Rey is a Kenobi, despite the compelling arguments laid out by Ben Ostrower.

Spoiler Alert! This article contains spoilers for Star Wars: The Force Awakens. It’s also a little on the long side. Buckle up.

Obi-Wan Would Not Violate the Jedi Code

The biggest problem I have with the “Rey is the granddaughter of Obi-Wan Kenobi” theory is it would mean that Obi-Wan violated the Jedi Code and had a child. Anakin tells Padme in Attack of the Clones:

Attachment is forbidden. Possession is forbidden.

That Anakin breaks the Jedi Code and marries doesn’t surprise me and it could be argued it was simply another step on his inevitable march to the dark side. Obi-Wan, on the other hand, was always the man who chose the right path, the path of the Light side. Obi-Wan would deny himself to do what he felt was right. Now, after Order 66, the Jedi order had been destroyed. Obi-Wan could have reasoned that he was no longer bound by the archaic rules of the Order, but that doesn’t seem to fit his character. Obi-Wan was watching over Luke with the idea that Luke would be their “New Hope” and that one day Obi-Wan would train Luke to be a Jedi. He had not abandoned the Order, in fact, he wanted to resurrect the Order. He was still a Jedi through and through and I believe he would have kept himself bound to Code and celibate.

What is odd is everyone seems to know what is going with Anakin and Padme but no one seems to make a big deal out of it. Obi-Wan even yells at Anakin to not let his personal feelings get in the way when Anakin wants to abandon his pursuit of Dooku to save Padme. Obi-Wan does threatenthat Anakin will be expelled from the Jedi Order. Would that be because they could no longer turn a blind eye to the obvious affair or because of insubordination/dereliction of duty? Maybe a little of both.

The necessary corollary isthat if Rey is Luke’s child, then he must have violated the Code. But did Obi-Wan even tell Luke about that aspect of the Jedi Code? Obi-Wan gets separated from Luke prior to Luke meeting Leia so Obi-wan wouldn’t have seen the attraction which would have provided a natural segue to the topic.

In A New Hope, Obi-Wan is dealing with Jedi 101 topics with Luke. What is the Force? How does it work? Jedi celibacy seems like more of a 300 level concept. Yoda would have had the time to get into that with Luke, but we don’t ever see that discussion onscreen. Even if Luke knew of that part of the Code, perhaps he decided that it was part that should come forward to the new Jedi. Luke was not brought up in the Jedi way as Obi-Wan would have been. I think it would have been far harder for Obi-Wan to let go of the Code than it would have been for Luke.

It also begs that question that if Force ability can be passed down genetically, why arent the Jedi encouraged to have children? But that, as Maz Katana might say, is a discussion for another day.

Not a Solo Either

I know the other idea that’s been discsussed is Rey is the daughter of Han and Leia and Kylo’s twin, echoing the Luke and Leia twin story from the originally trilogy. I can’t buy this either. I can’t see Han or Leia spending as much time as they do with Rey and not saying anything if indeed she is theirs.

Skywalker Clues are Stronger

Everything in the film points to Rey being a Skywalker. I know it seems too easy and too obvious, but somtimes a Skywalker is a simply a Skywalker. If Rey is Luke’s daughter, it would explain why Luke can’t say anything when Rey approaches him at the end of the film. Whatever he says will have to show familiarity.

Let’s look at what see of Rey. She’s fixes stuff like a Skywalker. She flies like a Skywalker and she uses the Force like a Skywalker. Who else, but someone with Skywalker blood, could wrestle the lightsaber away from Kylo or mind trick a Stormtrooper despite being untrained. Let’s also not overlook that that lightsaber, the Skywalker lightsaber of Anakin and Luke, calls to her.

Then there are the smaller clues. In Rey’s AT-AT home, we can see a small doll dressed up as an X-Wing pilot in an orange jumpsuit, the exact uniform Luke wore during the attack on the first Death Star. We also see Rey don a helmet that looks to be either Luke’s X-Wing helmet or perhaps a podracing helmet.

Rey is growing up on Jaaku, a world so similar to Luke’s homeworld of Tatooine that I thought it was Tatooine when the trailer was first released. It stands to reason that Luke would have picked a world similar to Tattoine and left Lor San Tekka (the old man at the beginning of the film who gives the last part of the map to Poe) to watch over her just as Kenobi watched over him. Finally, Lor has the missing piece of the map that leads to Skywalker. A map Luke probably intended Lor to give to Rey when she was old enough.


Where do you stand? Is a Rey a Kenobi, Skywalker or Solo?


I tend to think that the Jedi concept of celibacy is part of their downfall.  I wouldn't mind if Obi Wan finally understood that and moved on.

Out-of-universe, Lucas has noted that the Star Wars saga is about the Skywalker family.  Abrams might not be tied to that idea, but it's definitely at the core of what Lucas was doing, for better or worse.

Ultimately, given both of those, I just can't believe that the major storylines will be tuned to validate Jedi celibacy.  Yes, family comes with trouble, but it's also the most powerful thing in the universe.

...this, of course, doesn't explain why Han and Leia have such a crappy post-Endor life with a kid going dark, but I'll reserve potentially harsh judgement of that arc until I see what happens in the next two films with EmoKylo.

TedtheThird moderator

@tishtoshtesh It seemed from the dialog that Han and Leia's marriage unraveled as a result of Kylo going to the dark side which would be a similar situation to him having died. Marriages that encounter the death of a child have about an 80% divorce rate. I can see both of them running back to the things they did well (smuggling, politics) as a way to cope. 

It makes Han and Leia's relationship more real (well as real as a relationship between two fictional people in a fictional universe can be).


"Obi-Wan would deny himself to do what he felt was right."

Unfortunately, this isn't true from my perspective. I've always felt the final scene in Revenge of the Sith exposes the selfishness of Obi-Wan.

He understood the stakes involved, and when presented with the opportunity to kill Anakin with a simple force push into the lava, he instead walked away too weak to finish off his brother.

The result is Vader.

And the problem is, you can't defend him the other way. How is it not merciful, when you know the stakes and love the kid you must destroy, not to give him a sudden death instead of letting him be consumed by flames.

The man is flawed, and that's ok. So much of the weakness of the Jedi came from the inability to be fallible.

TedtheThird moderator

@BeatUpFord I've always had difficulty reconciling that final scene in Revenge of the Sith. The way I made it make sense in my head was that after what Obi-Wan saw on the holos from the Jedi Temple, that was still too kind of a death for Anakin. 


Jedi celibacy was a Pequal concept. I think the reason this was not in the original trilogy was because the jedi were based upon Japanese samurai. The samurai were not prohibited from having children, quite the opposite family was very important - as were certain bloodlines or family names (like in Star Wars). That said, I agree that Obi-wan was dedicated to watching over Luke and saving the galaxy, not much room for romance.

TedtheThird moderator

@SirRolfofSpork The Prequels, however much we may dislike them, are as much canon as the new movie. We can't dismiss a concept simply because it came from them. That said, I hope we never hear the words midiclorian again on screen.